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Am I Healing… or Just Hiding It Better? Ep 302
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What’s good RRP family…
I’m gonna be real… I don’t even know if I’ve actually healed or if I just got better at pretending.
I got out of a 4-year relationship about a year ago. It ended BAD — lying, cheating, constant arguing… all of it. I was hurt, but I told myself I was done with that chapter and ready to move on.
Since then, I’ve been working, hitting the gym, leveling up financially… doing everything that looks like healing.
But here’s the problem…
I started talking to someone new recently, and I noticed something in me that I don’t like.
•I overthink EVERYTHING
•I don’t trust anything they say, even when they haven’t given me a reason not to
•I keep my guard up so high that I don’t even know how to be soft anymore
•And if I’m being honest… I still check my ex’s page sometimes
I tell people “I’m good”… but I don’t know if I actually am.
Part of me feels like I’ve grown.
But another part of me feels like I just built better walls.
Now I’m stuck wondering…
👉 Am I healing… or just hiding it better?
👉 And is it fair to even try to be in something new if I’m still carrying all this?
What would y’all do in my situation?
It's a D girl from around the way with a whole lot of shit to say. It's your girl, KD.
SPEAKER_09It's your ho what's she? Oh, never mind. She's not here. You know what it's your boy Code DT and AT. I wasn't finna do it. Pure motivation.
SPEAKER_01She told me don't do that no more.
SPEAKER_09She definitely said don't do it.
SPEAKER_01She said, Hey, you better not.
SPEAKER_09She never.
SPEAKER_01I think I did a good job.
SPEAKER_09I'm not, I'm not saying nothing. I don't want no problem. What up? What up? What up, KD? Talk about it, man. What's good? Listen, welcome, welcome to another episode of Relationship Reality Podcast, where you get your daily dose of relationship and reality. Talk about it. Listen, before you ain't do your intro. Yeah, you cut me off.
SPEAKER_01No, I didn't.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, you start talking about how you wasn't finna do. Oh I was in the middle of it, you know. You cut me off, but you know who it is. Your boy Cove DTMA April Motivation. You know, we just stop it there. Listen, that's whack. It's whack, but you know what's not whack? What April 18th is not whack, man. I'm excited, man. For those who don't know, we doing the you should know. I don't even want to say for those who don't know. You should know about it. Maybe they don't know.
SPEAKER_01What if it's their first time listening?
SPEAKER_09If it's your first time listening, welcome. We definitely welcome you. But you better know this. Listen, April 18th. We in the building.
SPEAKER_01What's the address?
SPEAKER_09It's Google it real quick.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god.
SPEAKER_09Because she won't know the address. So bad. She keeps saying that. There's only one Buffalo Wild Wings in downtown Detroit.
SPEAKER_01What if I'm not from here and I need to put it in my GPS?
SPEAKER_09Guess what you can type in on your GPS?
SPEAKER_01What?
SPEAKER_09Buffalo Wild Wings, Downtown Detroit. Guess what comes up? The only Buffalo Wild Wings that's in downtown Detroit. So listen, Buffalo Wild Wings, Downtown Detroit. You root. Make sure you end the building. We start at 5 p.m. All right. So I do another podcast. It's a wrestling podcast. This is actually WrestleMania weekend, right? So Relationship Reality Network will open up for this event. So we're going to be on there from 5 to 6. All right. Getting it in, live recording, gifts, prizes, all that good stuff, man. Make sure y'all in the building because look, you just don't want to miss this, man. It's going to be epic. It's going to be a movie. It's going to be, we got a major surprise announcement that we're going to give you. This is exactly what it is.
SPEAKER_01It is 1216 Randolph Street, Detroit, Michigan, 48226.
SPEAKER_09And how did you get that? Did you type in Buffalo Vile Wings Downtown Detroit? Nope. I'm glad. Okay. KD did the legwork for y'all. So you definitely don't have no excuses, man. Go on event bright right now. Get the ticket. Ticket's only ten dollars, man, and get you in. Not only does it get you in and get you in a seat where you can actually order your own wings and eat while we do our thing up there.
SPEAKER_01And pay for your own wings.
SPEAKER_09Pay for your own wings, too.
SPEAKER_01The ten dollars does not include wings.
SPEAKER_09But the ten dollars might include you uh taking a shot with your boys. Now I'm not gonna purchase the shot, but we're gonna take one together. I might purchase one, you know what I'm saying? You never know how this name is gonna go. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Listen, that's a doggone shame.
SPEAKER_09I might purchase a few shots. Man, y'all might look. We're gonna have a we're gonna have a bar.
SPEAKER_01If you're gonna be doing them many shots, I'm probably gonna have to drive because I'm not driving that big old truck. What big old truck? That truck you just bought.
SPEAKER_09Oh, okay. It's presidential. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, man, I'm excited, man. Live. This is uh this is our first one. This is our first live uh episode that we're doing with everybody. Y'all be able to be a part of it. So when you come, bring your issues with you so we can get y'all through them. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm excited, man. Shout out to the amazing day day that we got to partake in this past weekend. It was amazing, it was a great turnout.
SPEAKER_01Shout out to Miss Love.
SPEAKER_09Uh, shout out to Miss Love, shout out to the the Day Foundation, the Day Foundation.
SPEAKER_01They they look out for women who having babies over the age of 40 and support for families with toddlers and infants.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, so it's a great foundation, man. Make sure y'all check them out, show them some love if you can. But it was definitely a great feeling, man. To and it was the the anniversary of us losing him, too. So it was a great way to, for one, kind of distract yourself from being able to feel down, you know what I'm saying, the whole time. Of course, you're gonna have your moments where you, you know, you might be by yourself and it just kind of hit you. But if everybody kind of tugging on you left and right, front and back, it just kind of distracts you a little bit in a good way. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, to where you like, man, I got so much love around me, man. I got so much support, I got you know, so much going on that I just love to see, man. Even it was some people that stepped in the building, and I was I it it just made my heart smile just to see certain people step in the building, whether you had something personally going on, whether you had you got you might not have been seen eye to eye at the moment, you might have had your own, you know, differences going, you might have had something else on the schedule, but you made time to come through, show your face, show some love, drop that support. You know what I'm saying, and just like look, we're here for you. The babies had a ball, babies had a ball, but basketball connect four thing was dope. Yeah, they wasn't playing it correctly, man. I was this the thing, I was on the yeah. I was I was on the snow cone boy, you know what I'm saying? My line, my line stayed jumping. They did, yeah. Uh all my babies came through, they was like, I need just you listen.
SPEAKER_01Let me get another one.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, I was I was doing my my Benny Hanna thing with the with the flavors and all that. I was I'm flipping it, all that, you know what I'm saying? So it was it was a great time with the babies. I definitely love, but if I'd have known that connect food thing would have been out there, you would have took the snow call machine out there. I'd have took the snow call machine right next to the connect four. First of all, it wasn't enough electricity, but I would have well once I switched it up, it was straight. Oh yeah, I got a stronger box, but the connect four, you you guys played connect four before, I'm pretty sure. You at least seen it, right? You just gotta get four in a row. They would just hoop it. But I'm like, this is neat. I don't even think I ever seen one in person. I've seen on like the handheld game, you know, mobile. What the connect for basketball joint, right? Yeah, you played it at uh no, not not not the big, I'm talking about oh, like an inflatable.
SPEAKER_01Oh no, no, that was my first time seeing that.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So I'm gonna say you play connect for basketball when we went to the main event.
SPEAKER_09Oh, yeah, that's automatic. I'm wherever basketball I'm with, I'm near. That's true. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01But whenever I can't find him at a at an arcade, I was like, where the basketball at?
SPEAKER_09I'm near. We're gonna have a bar, but yeah, no, that was that was great, man. So shout out to her, shout out to everybody who just showed love, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01It was a little girl that came up to me and she was she was like, Man, you have a lot of tattoos. I was like, Thank you. She was like, if you don't mind me asking, which one is your favorite? So I showed her the one that was my favorite, the one that I got for for Chuck and Alvin. And she was like, I don't really like that one. She was like, I my favorite. No, she said I prefer the one with the fish. So I got a tattoo of my what's it say? My forearm with my granddaughter name, and it's fish because she a she's a Pisces. She was like, I prefer that one.
SPEAKER_09I just cracked up laughing because I love kids, man. Kids gonna keep you on it. I learned that, you know, when you when you're doing when you're speaking, public speaking, you can talk to a dog, they'll listen. You'll think that it's going in both ears and staying there, and you'll never know. You're talking to the kid, they're gonna let you know immediately. You know, say something that's inaccurate, they're gonna let you know that. Say something that they just don't resonate with, they're gonna let you know that. You listen, kids is gonna keep you honest, man. I love it. So, what's going on, man? What else she got going on? She showed you about my new will, but what you got going on?
SPEAKER_01Me, yeah.
SPEAKER_09What how was your week? How was your weekend?
SPEAKER_01It was okay. You went to the game. I don't have nothing going on.
SPEAKER_09Oh, it's just all work, huh? Yeah, all work. She moved up in the in the pedestal, and now she just like, uh, you know, it's just it's just money, you know what I'm saying? It's the only money, shout out, Cam. It's the only money, you know what I'm saying? Man, so for me, we're gonna keep it short but sweet, you know what I'm saying? It's been a good week. Got a new whip. The black suburban boy. So y'all see that black suburban pull up on you. Just start, just start saying my intro. Just start saying my intro. You're just gonna keep it at that. Just start saying the intro, man. Great feeling. I you know, I needed something, man. I went from the impala to the to the suburban.
SPEAKER_01We've been talking about getting suburban for so long, though. I'm glad you finally got it.
SPEAKER_09Just really a truck in general, yeah. What I needed. I wasn't necessarily going for the suburban. Pardon me, I wasn't going for the suburban, but the suburban stood out to me immediately. I went for what was it, a four by four, I think I showed you?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, a ramp.
SPEAKER_09And I was like, huh. But the pictures look way better than the real deal. Yeah, so I was like, uh, and somebody beat me to it, so I was really glad because I probably would have got it anyway and be like, oh, I can do this and I can do that, but I'm I'm past that stage in life, man. I don't want to have to do, I just want to do what I want to do to it. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01I got seat, yeah.
SPEAKER_09That was crazy. So yeah, no, so yeah, no, shout out Kiki couldn't make it today. She got some other stuff going on, but trust and believe on April 18th, she's gonna be in the building.
SPEAKER_01Be there or be square, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_09That I'm telling you, what I tell them that 10 to get you in, man. You pay that 10, it'll get you in. Come on in, you know what I'm saying? We're gonna have a bar the whole night. You're so I'm saying. So let's get into today's potting. I think this is a good one because this is one that can be confused a lot, right? So we really want to talk about the difference between like healing or just getting better. All right, just learning how to cope with it. And this this sticks out to me, and this might not even be the same, but that that phrase sticks out to me because I was talking to a gentleman yesterday, and he was saying, like, he's like, Yeah, I just try and stay busy. And I was like, I kind of cringe a little bit, because I get it. You try to stay busy so so you don't have that moment where it kind of kicks in that something just happened. You know what I'm saying? I gotta feel I gotta deal with this re this piece of reality. But I believe that's dangerous because I think that's how crashes happen. You know what I'm saying? When you just try to quote unquote stay busy. You feel me? Like I I believe it's it should be important to deal with it. You know what I'm saying? Deal with it head on. Even if you're not ready to deal with it at that precise moment, figure out a way to make it happen. Like deal with it head on. If you gotta cry, cry. You know what I'm saying? If you gotta be sad for a minute, be sad. If you because the thing is, especially if we're talking about losing somebody, the pain don't necessarily go away.
SPEAKER_06Right.
SPEAKER_09You just learn how to deal with the pain. You learn how to utilize the pain to not only you be better, but to sometimes make other people be better. Right? And that's the part that keeps me going, and knowing that I can help somebody else be better. You know, so this person, his theirs is a little different. All right, so what's good, RIP family? I'm gonna be real. I don't even know if I'm actually healed or if I just if I'm just better at pretending. I got out of a four-year relationship about a year ago. It ended bad. Lying, cheating, constant arguing, all of it. I was hurt. But I told myself I was done with that chapter and ready to move on. Since then, I've been working, hitting the gym, leveling up financially, doing everything that looks like healing. And they put the looks in the italic. In the italic, right? Okay. Alright, but they but here's the problem. I started talking to somebody recently, and I noticed something that I don't really like. Like I overthink everything. I don't trust anything that they say when they haven't even given me a reason not to. I keep my guard up so high that I don't even know how to be soft anymore. And if I'm being honest, I still check my ex's page sometimes.
SPEAKER_06Oh.
SPEAKER_09I tell people I'm good, but I don't know if I actually am. Part of me, part of me feels like I've grown, but another part feels like I'm just getting better building wall. Now I'm stuck wondering, am I healing or am I just hiding it better? Talk about it.
SPEAKER_01I don't sound like they healed at all.
SPEAKER_09Definitely doesn't sound sound.
SPEAKER_01Especially if they still checking the X page and all of that, like no. So what did you what are you looking for? Like, what are you checking for?
SPEAKER_09I wonder if people are checking to make sure that you're not doing better without me than you were with me.
SPEAKER_01But the thing, so you check in hoping to see something bad, but people post what they want to post. They only post the happy stuff and the good stuff. Yeah, so if you're looking to like find something to make you feel better about y'all not being together, that's that's not what's gonna be posted.
SPEAKER_09But what if you're looking for no posting? If that's the case, right? If you can't post nothing, that means nothing good happened. But what if I'm just not a poster? You would know, I mean, you would know better than me. I mean, you would know better than us, right? So if I'm checking your page, I assume that you know that this person is a poster. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but some of your funnest, most amazing times are the times you don't post.
SPEAKER_09No, like when you hang some of your funnest times, the times you don't post. You got people, think about think about Illuminati Mike. He posted everything. I'm at the the Michigan game, I'm at the I'm doing it. Like he's posting constantly, right? So you do have people who are serial posters, which we're gonna assume if you're checking his page, that he must be, or she, they never really tell what. But she said softer side, so it's gotta be a sheath. Because I'm hoping he ain't looking for no soft side. But yeah, you would know that he must post. You know what I'm saying? So in this case, what do you think? What's going on? What's going through your head when you hear this, aside from the posting part, but even like the walls up. I know you can attest to the walls being up. Not even just in relationships, uh, you and I, but friendships or shoot, shoot, uh family, family members. You put walls up around, you know, for family members. Like talk to me about putting the walls up, you know what I'm saying, just in general. And I I'm a I'm I'm 10% for walls, 90% against them.
SPEAKER_01Why?
SPEAKER_09Because we talk about it often too. Walls are definitely to keep people out, but it also stops the right person from getting in sometimes. And if I when when I meet you, I kind of feel like okay, this could be something. But if your wall up, I don't know you enough to beat that wall down. Now, if I've already known you like we are, right, and you just somehow something happened, you build a wall, I've known you long enough to know this is the person I need in my life. I'm willing to knock this wall down.
SPEAKER_07Right.
SPEAKER_09If I don't know you enough yet, I'm not finna beat that wall down. And now we're finna miss out on a connection that may have supposed to be the connection. You feel what I'm saying? It's almost like the one thing I tell my my kids as of late, right? The pretending part. I tell them to, I understand social media tells you to tell you the opposite. The social media tells you fake it till you make it. I tell them not to do that. Don't fake it till you make it, because if you look like you already got it all together, the person that's sent to bless you is gonna overlook you because they he don't need that, he already got it. You know what I'm saying? If you're looking for financial blessing and I I'm looking at you splurging out, you're spending a thousand dollars on shoes or two thousand on glasses, or you own social media, you flashing your brain. I don't think you need that, you know what I'm saying? And it could be something as simple as three hundred dollars, you know what I'm saying? But I don't think you need it, so you must not be the person that he was sending me to. It must be somebody else. So I'm gonna keep looking. So you're gonna miss out on your blessing because you're pretending, you're gonna miss out on your potential healing from the past relationship because you're pretending. I yeah, so what you think about what talk to me about that before I go any further.
SPEAKER_01I mean, I believe in walls. I know, so I don't, I don't, but also, like you got a wall up so nobody else can hurt you, but you're not over the situation, so you don't need to be in another relationship anyway, right? Because you should are you need to heal whatever is broken before you end up bleeding on somebody who didn't cut you. So, with or without the wall, if you're not healed from your previous relationship and you move on to the next relationship, you're gonna end up making that person pay for things they didn't do, and that's gonna end up you usually that ends up with that person breaking up with you anyway.
SPEAKER_09What does what does actual healing healing is everything for it's different for everybody, and I mean, like, what do you do to actually heal? I think that's the question I'm looking for.
SPEAKER_01I mean, well, I what I think people should do, I think people should go to counseling, I think people should do some self-reflection because it's easy to say the relationship ended because of X, Y, and Z that they did, but sometimes you got to do some self-inventory and see what did you add to the recipe of disaster. Not saying one person can't mess up the whole situation, but they usually have help. Right. So you got to do some evaluation, figure out what your part in it was, and see if that part of you is something that you're willing to fix, or are you one of those that's just how I am, people.
SPEAKER_09Because another thing that I'm uh I'm gonna combat you on is the part where you say you might you're gonna bleed out on somebody who had nothing to do with it, right? In most cases, you are never the person that stops the bleeding, it's always somebody else.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but like, okay, so let's say your previous relationship ended because the previous person was unfaithful, right? So now you got trust issues that you haven't talked about or dealt with or whatever. So now you call in your new guy or your new girl and they didn't answer for whatever reason. Maybe they didn't have a signal, or maybe you know, whatever the reason is, they didn't answer the phone. So then when they see that you call, they call you back and you immediately go off on them.
SPEAKER_09This is this is what I think. I believe a combination of the two is where the danger lies. Right? So if you if you have your past issues that you bring into your next relationship and you also have a wall, that's where I believe things get dangerous, right? Because you bring in your issues and you got your wall, so I can't even get through to you to even say or help or deal. So I'm literally just taking you dumping on me, period. And I can't even help out anyway. I just gotta sit and keep taking the dump. How far?
SPEAKER_01But see, that's what I'm saying. So if I didn't heal From whatever I was going through with the previous person, then you're gonna you're gonna pay for things that you didn't do.
SPEAKER_09And that's the thing. So my and no, that's what I'm saying. I believe there's some people who is equipped for that. If you're if there's no walls in the way for me to even try to help out. Because I I believe the walls stopped me, stopped me from being able to help you. You know what I'm saying? Because you don't think that you don't think for one, you probably don't think nothing's wrong. And for two, you just want to make sure that you're protected. So protection also is like a block, it's a shield. Right. So I can't get nothing in. But I'm gonna take everything. So I think that be the issue. Like, there's some people who I think is equipped for your past problem that you might get in contact with, right? Because either they've been through it, they understand it, or they just they just, you know, they patient enough, whatever the case may be. I believe for me myself, I think I'm a more patient individual, especially in my latter years, way more patient than I was probably in the beginning. But I think the amount of patience I've have now, I can deal with people past problem. As long as they are they are willing to actually deal with the past problem. You know what I'm saying? If it's something we let's talk about it, let's get through it, let's let's discuss this thing, let's make it happen.
SPEAKER_01So but sometimes when you're not healed from stuff, you don't want to talk about it either.
SPEAKER_09I get that.
SPEAKER_01So you you can't really help people heal if they're not if they're not willing to talk about it. And sometimes I think people don't aren't willing to talk about things because they haven't accepted their part in it.
SPEAKER_09Now that's the part.
SPEAKER_01Now that's the part because talking about it would say it out loud would make me like reevaluate the situation, right? Or not not necessarily reevaluate it, but it put it on the floor, then you're like, well, dang, I guess I did have a part in that. When you playing a violin of woe is me, they did this to me.
SPEAKER_09Yeah. I yeah, no, I get that. And I also think that when you said that the person's not ready to be dating, that would be the specific person, the person who's not ready to take accountability that it that they may have had a played a role in this thing, right? Right. As as much as we are against like violence, right? A woman putting their hands on a man, a man putting their hands on a woman, whatever. We also can say sometimes the person who could be getting their hands, he could be getting hands put on them, could play a role in that happening, right? We've seen situations where uh I think I was showing BFF yesterday, a guy, the girl was slapping him constantly. She was saying something, but we couldn't make out what she was saying. He was but she just kept slapping him, and he was trying to walk away. And at the moment that he kind of snatched off to walk away, she grabbed him, gave him a kiss. And I think that at that point he thought it was over with. And right after the kiss, she started slapping him again. I'm just sitting here looking like what so, and I just I stopped it right there because I was like, I don't condone it. Maybe that was their foreplay. I understand that, but I don't condone it at all. But I can definitely understand if something happened after that point right there. Because I'm trying to get away, I'm trying to move and when I tell you these slap, these was Will Smith slap. Like he was he she was Will Smith and him quick with the slap, right? And I'm like, dog, I understand it a little bit, but again, I don't condone it, right? But it's the accountability part, which we heard in the past that for sure, not just women but people do not like taking accountability, right?
SPEAKER_01It's the because if he was to smack her back, right, then it's oh he put his hands on me, she's gonna leave out the fact that she smacked him 17 times. Right, you know, that's what I'm saying. Like, you gotta say what's your part in it.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with that a thousand percent. Overthinking in a relationship with the with the cons in that.
SPEAKER_01It's a lot of cons because what happens when you overthink is now you don't put a you done gave life to a situation that's not real, and now now you like you've created a whole scenario that you done got your feelings into, now you're upset or mad or whatever, and the the thing that you are thinking about didn't even happen, right? Or you scared or you nervous or whatever, whatever feeling because I don't think overthinking gives positive feelings. Usually overthinking gives negative feelings, either fear, anxiety, anger, because you done over you done created a whole mirage thing that didn't even happen. You know what I'm like like, oh, he didn't answer the phone because he on the phone with another girl, and they probably talking about this, and they probably doing this, and they probably about to meet up, and nothing happened. He just didn't answer the phone because he had no signal in Walmart. You know what I'm saying? Like or he fell asleep after he got off work because he was tired, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_09Yeah, okay. When I hear overthink, I always go. I think the biggest part about overthinking is that that that gives you the inability to follow through with a decision. You know what I'm saying? Because even when you think you have the right decision, you go back and you think about it again. So you never follow through with the actual decision because you know you're overthinking it.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_09You you're scared to make a decision one way or another, right? You know what I'm saying? And that's what even made me switch gears in my coaching because I noticed that there are a lot of people who just don't know how to make the sound decision.
SPEAKER_01And then sometimes you don't want to be the decision maker, right? You like, I don't want to be the one to end things, or I don't want to be the one to punish the kid, or I don't want to be the one to whatever, you know. So I think that play a part in it too.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, and that that's probably a lot of that's probably based off the emotional part of life, to where you like, I just don't feel I don't feel right doing that, or I feel bad doing that, or whatever the case may be. Yeah, I think that so out of this, out of this this situation, before we even go further into the helping, which part is the worst? Is it the overthinking part? Is it we didn't even talk about the not trusting nothing that that they say? Let's talk about that first. To be in a relationship and not trust nothing that the person your partner's saying, especially early on. I think that's a big deal.
SPEAKER_01But see, but that's another thing. You don't trust what I say because of what somebody else did to you because I haven't done anything for you to not trust me. So why am I not being trusted when you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you don't if I'm if I say, Oh, I'm about to go kick it with my homegirls at the bar, but the last time the other chick went to the bar, she cheated on you every time. So now I'm at the bar. Now you pissed off because I'm at the bar, because that's where she used to go cheat on you at. That don't got nothing to do with me.
SPEAKER_09Right. I agree with that.
SPEAKER_01So now I'm a liar because she a cheater. That's that's crazy. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's not even in my character to cheat, but yeah, I'm getting punished because she was cheating. Yeah, eventually that's gonna get that you're gonna get sick of that, and you're gonna break up with the person.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, I agree with that, and I see that often too. Like, we joke about that, and we've seen other podcasts where they also joke about it, and I love I love when that happens because I'm like, I used to think I was the only one that thought like this, yeah, and then I see other people thinking the same way, right? Whereas even for us, I could say something, you'll kind of sort of believe it, but then somebody else can come through and kind of shine more light on that situation, and then you'll fully believe, like, oh yeah, okay, that's gotta be, you know what I'm saying, depending on who the somebody else is. But I seen I seen one of the shows he watched, they said your husband can be a doctor, and he can tell you, like, yeah, this is what this this this rash right here came from X, Y, and Z, and you'll still want to go get a second opinion, even though I'm a doctor, right? Because you don't know, you have no idea. So, yeah, that's that's the thing on that one. Come on in, sugar, have a seat. Let's go.
SPEAKER_01Come on in, sugar.
SPEAKER_09Live in effect. Y'all thought y'all wasn't gonna get her. Y'all thought y'all wasn't gonna get her.
SPEAKER_01She was being a Mamiana, yeah.
SPEAKER_09She said she said she wanna make an interest. Uh uh what an interest, uh interest.
SPEAKER_01BFF you make an interest. That's what it is. Uh um I ain't do your voice either, just so you know. I said, No, I'm not finna do that because I told you I got in trouble last time.
SPEAKER_07Thank you. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER_01See, told you she like and another thing.
SPEAKER_07I appreciate you.
SPEAKER_01Don't do my voice no more because I don't sound like that.
SPEAKER_02Ever in life. Well, ever in life.
SPEAKER_09So, yeah. So we would basically catch you up just a little bit. There was a where'd you go? Let me pull you back up.
SPEAKER_06Now, where'd you go?
SPEAKER_09Yeah, so we were talking about basically are you healing or are you just getting better at pretending? And so this person just got off a four-year relationship, it went bad, a lot of lying, cheating, constant arguing, all of it, and they was hurt because they told themselves they was never gonna do that again, and they was ready to move on to their next chapter. When doing that, they learned something about themselves that they didn't like. One was they overthink everything, the other one was they don't trust anything that the person is saying, even though they haven't given them a reason not to trust it, and they still check the access page.
SPEAKER_06So that's some shit.
SPEAKER_09So she tells mine for a reason. We're gonna say she. She tells people that that she's good, but she don't think that she actually is. So that's basically what she at. She's trying to figure out she done built up walls and everything. She wants to know, you know, what should she do? What's going on? We came to conclusion that for one, you checking the the ex's pages, the red flag, meaning that you're not over that situation and you're trying to move into something else. We also said we were talking about the overthinking part of it. What's your what's your assessment on like overthinking in a relationship?
SPEAKER_02I think a lot of people overthink. I mean, I know I do sometimes, but when you go into the point of still checking pages, it's that's more than overthinking. Yeah, I think there's you check it for something else.
SPEAKER_09And so we were saying, well, not we, but me. I was saying we, I mean me, yeah, me, myself, and I just giving you the cliff, the cliff, the cliff note, get catching you up here. It could have been the checking the page could be like, I just want to make sure dog ain't doing better without me than he was with me, right? But why do you care?
SPEAKER_02I mean, you still care, right? Right. Why you put forth effort on something that you don't care about? You care about it. I'm never checking my page, no page for no ex, like why unless you're checking for something, right? You're checking to see if they're single again, you're checking to see some other stuff. I wouldn't I wouldn't do it unless I was checking for something, right?
SPEAKER_09And then we were talking about the building of walls in a relationship. What's your take on just people building walls in their relationship for people who was not a part of the issue of why you even building a wall?
SPEAKER_02What you mean?
SPEAKER_09So, like you built the wall because your ex you know pushed you to a limit to where you was like, ah, but now you're talking to somebody new, you got them walls up. Talk to me.
SPEAKER_02Like in the I feel like in the relationship, if you've been scarred once, it's like the post-traumatic stress, like you go into the new relationship and you kind of like tippy toe in because you don't know what to expect. So you kind of yeah, you guarded, but don't blame me for what your ex did. That's what I said. That's exactly what I said. You got to do it's a fine line you gotta walk because if you treat me like I was the ex, then this is probably not gonna last that long.
SPEAKER_01I'm not gonna that's and that's so crazy. That's exactly what I said. I'm like, yeah, because your ex-girlfriend, every time she went to the bar, she cheated on you. Now I'm hanging out with my girls at the bar, and you accusing me of doing something that is not even in my character to do because of what she did. That ain't how long you think that's gonna last? You know what I'm saying? Or like if I'm at Walmart or something, I don't got no signal, I miss your call. Yeah, then I get in the car and I see you calling, I call you back, and immediately you on tip because when she ain't answer the phone, that means she was with another guy. That ain't me. So eventually you're gonna say, Hey yo, deal with that shit and then come back over here because I can't deal with that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you can only take that for so long.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't think I will be able to deal with constantly being accused of doing something because your ex did something to you. I don't I don't think that I will be able to handle that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because gonna cause me to do what exactly what you're saying, I'm doing or not. I'm just saying, like if you think I'm doing it anyway, I mean, it's gonna be over. I might as well just start doing what you think I'm doing.
SPEAKER_09This is when I feel like the roles then just became it's no more role, it's just one role now. It used to be a gender role of male and female, it's like that is the way that men used to think. Oh, you're gonna keep accusing me. I might as well go ahead and even then, and saying it out loud now, yeah, it sounds like the dumbest thing ever, right? Yeah, but it happened, but it feels so it feels so like it was supposed to happen, like this is that and then we'll say that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, you had kept saying I was doing it, so I had gone on and did it. You made me made me do it.
SPEAKER_02But I feel like the relationship over anyway, like you already tired of it anyway. People stay in relationships way longer than they should, but this is this way longer than they should.
SPEAKER_09From the sounds of this, this is a new relationship. She didn't got out of a four-year relationship, yeah. She's getting into a new relationship, and she's treating this new relationship as if it's a continuation of the old relationship, and that's gonna run him away. Like, I would just we were just talking before you walked in, like part of the wall building. I'm like, I'm with it for 10, right? Because I do think it's somewhat important, just a little bit for your safety of like your heart, you know what I'm saying? But it also blocks the right stuff from getting in, just the way it's blocking the wrong stuff from getting in or getting out, it's blocking the right stuff from getting in, and it's enabling me. If I'm the person that's supposed to be in your life, it's enabling me to be able to, you know, help in any kind of way because the wall is up, yeah, and it's not even because of me. But then a part that I now y'all tell me if y'all ever seen this. I've seen people who have walls up, right? Where they wouldn't let the new person in who seemed like they were genuine, yeah. But you'll let the trash come back. Oh the one that made you build a wall up, you're comfortable with the trash, you're comfortable with the trash coming back, and he was the reason that you built the wall. But this is the thing.
SPEAKER_01So if the wall was built and you let that person come back, he was never on the other side of the wall anyway.
SPEAKER_09He was, but the dick was the key.
SPEAKER_01I was just about to say, I'm telling you, but but that's so he probably was never on that side of the wall. So the wall, the wall keeping new people out, but if he could just walk back in, that means he never was on the other side of the wall. That's true. Because once he's on the other side of the wall, good dick or not, it changes. You know what I'm saying? So that's why the trash is able to come back because he on the inside of the wall.
SPEAKER_02But you know what? I'm thinking, I'm thinking the new guy probably don't have the good dick like the like the old one though. So she's gonna always go back to the sorry girl. I know how you feel, girl. Sometimes it'd be like that.
SPEAKER_09We also was we also was tapping in on like the fact that she deems everything that the new person is saying as a lie.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you're talking about you no reasoning behind you you can't trust nothing he says, he hasn't done anything, or she didn't say that he's done anything, right? Yeah, that should deem him untrustworthy. Yeah, yeah. So you again, you don't trust me because of what he did. Yo, that's crazy.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, your ex said he was an entrepreneur. He used to lead a house all the time, but he ain't never had no money.
SPEAKER_02Oh no.
SPEAKER_09Now I'm telling you, I'm an entrepreneur, but I'm also showing you I got six figures, and you can kind of you can follow my trail of what I've done and what's what what's going on, right? But you still treat me as if I'm doing the same thing that he did. Because, or okay, how about this? You meet me, you like me, everything is good, right? But you see that I got a friend, and my friend is showing that he's you know he got bad ways, right? He might be a cheater, he might, he might put you in the mind of your ex. And I'm okay with him being my friend because we've been friends since middle school or whatever, right?
SPEAKER_05And people love to say birds of a feather, oh, flock together.
SPEAKER_09And because I seem like I'm okay with whatever it is that he's doing, or I'm I'm overlooking it, or whatever the case may be, now you think that when I'm out when I ain't when I ain't around, you're doing the same thing.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_09You know what I'm saying? So I and even that is not the a correct assessment because I hung out, I I hung out and still hang out with a couple people that's what we be thinking about. And just like for women, y'all got some people who are not on your level that you still cool with, they they might not even be in the friend category. Yeah, they might be work associates that every time you have an event or you have something, they come through.
SPEAKER_02If they a hoe, I'm not okay.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, but that's the thing on out. That's the thing though. If I'm only there for the time that they there, I don't see the fade out part, right? I just see the time that they're there, and I'm I'm putting this all together like oh she must be a hoe too. This must be all in one. This is all it's all conclusive, right? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So timing is everything, yeah. From when from when you see somebody do something, right? Because you don't know if if I I might check my friend every time, just because I don't do it publicly, right? You know, that's true. Yeah, I don't do it publicly, but I pull them aside. Bro, come on, this ain't that type of yeah, you know what I'm saying. We got kids that that do things they shouldn't be doing, yeah. And no, I don't have to go to Facebook or Instagram and all that to say, yeah, yeah. I don't even have to do it in front of anybody. I can pull my kids aside. Come here, come here, big fella. Come here at you, hell wrong with you and and do the the chastising in private, right? But because you don't see it in 2026, it didn't happen, it didn't happen.
SPEAKER_06Yep, that's true.
SPEAKER_09We don't think Will Chamberlain scored 100 points, we don't think a man went to the moon, we don't think we don't think covet is real because it was put here by somebody, like we don't think none of this because we can't really say we saw it happen, right? We don't think Magic Johnson really got a like it's just a bunch of stuff we don't see. We don't see what you say that because we didn't see it for real. Dress still looking too healthy.
SPEAKER_02We don't believe it so far every time, every time. I'm just saying, I just think you almost made me spit my drink out.
SPEAKER_09If y'all really want to see her spit a drink out April 18th, make sure y'all in the building at 5 p.m. She's gonna spit a drink out right there on stage as she out here. Well, yeah, no, so uh my goodness. What do y'all think, man? Talk to them about that. What's up? Like, what how can aside from the fact that we all are are in agreement that she's probably not ready for a relationship yet, mainly because you Checking the ex's page, right?
SPEAKER_01I guess that ain't the only reason she's checking the page. You this man can't go to work without you thinking he cheating. Like, bro, you she needs to go to counseling. She didn't go back to the ex and keep fucking. Or go, but she might, he might not want her.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I didn't say stay. I said keep fucking her. That's that's clearly what she wanted to do.
SPEAKER_09So this is the question. This is the question that I asked KD. I'm about to ask you. What does what does healing actually look like? Oh like what do you do to assure that you are healing from the past traumas of of you know relationship? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I think therapy gotta be, it gotta be in there. Therapy praying, like some kind of comfort that friends, like it's it's just a combination of stuff you gotta do to heal. And it's no like sometimes you just heal forever. Like sometimes it's no like healing process, you just gotta get through it with whatever comes in time. But yeah, I definitely say, like, when I'm healing from something, I definitely go to y'all. Like you go to your friends, I do counseling, I do therapy. But yeah, it's it's a lot.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because healing is a process, it's a whole process, you know what I'm saying? It takes time being healed is when it's done, yeah. But healing is, and then sometimes you you are still in the healing process, and then something happens, and it kind of opened the wound back up, yeah, kind of take you back a little bit because you like, damn. So the you know how they be like, I shit.
SPEAKER_09I thought I was over it, but uh so the question is is one ever really completely healed? That's a good question from from parents' relationships.
SPEAKER_02I don't think you ever completely healed, like you still go through stuff, like because, like you said, you like something triggered something, and then now you like you thought you was over it, but then like you find yourself crying again, like maybe I wasn't over it.
SPEAKER_01Yep, you know what I'm saying, or getting angrier, you know what I'm saying, or something happened, or that person does something to like take you back to that place you were, and you like, well, well, damn, maybe I'll maybe I wasn't I guess I wasn't over it.
SPEAKER_02So I don't think you ever really get over a certain situation, especially if like you really love that person, like it was like you felt like your one true love, yeah. I don't think you ever get over that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you get through it, right? Yeah, you get through it, you gotta get through it, you gotta grieve it.
SPEAKER_09If that's something that you bring up in your next relationship, like look, because I do for one, I know people don't really do the work, right?
SPEAKER_07To be able to put in words, yeah.
SPEAKER_09Like you know you hurt, you know you're dealing with something, but I don't think people do the work to be able to put in words what it is that you actually going through, went through, and how you currently feel, right? But how powerful would it be if you were able to come into a new relationship and put on the floor from the jump? This is what I've been through. Yeah, this is what he'll lean from. I may not ever get completely healed, but I will definitely, I would definitely guarantee you that I'm aiming to get better every day, right? And a statement like that, I believe if somebody heard that, they'd be like, you can only respect that, right? Right.
SPEAKER_02From normal people, from normal people some people will be looking at that like, oh, so you weren't even ready for this relationship because you still in that one. You know what I'm saying? Some people would take that the wrong way and be like, hey, I don't think you're ready for a relationship then. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01So you gotta be careful, and you have to be very vulnerable to be able to have that conversation with somebody, and you might be afraid, like, okay, you don't want it to be weaponized against you. You know what I'm saying? Like you tell them all these things you've been through, and then something happened, and he like, well, that's probably why that person did XYZ to you anyway. Yeah, and he was like, Well, dang, I didn't tell you that for you to use it against me. Right. So I think that's like why people don't have like those so vulnerable conversations.
SPEAKER_02That's like a a grown person conversation.
SPEAKER_09Like I believe I do.
SPEAKER_01Or depending on your partner in it, you might not want to be judged for it either. You know what I mean? If you like, yeah, we broke up because I stepped out or you know, whatever, yeah, and hurting that person hurt me, and that's still something that I gotta get over and heal from. And it's like, oh, so you a hoe? Like, what? Well, no, I didn't say that. I just you know what I'm saying. So that's a big one too. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Take two grown people to really, and and you gotta be secure about that situation too.
SPEAKER_09Yeah. Yeah, I agree. And I and I think I do believe that if you find somebody that you're willing to have that conversation with, even if it's weaponized after the fact, I think if you're still doing the work, then you're okay. Unless you stay in table.
SPEAKER_01You don't want to keep hearing that either. Yeah, but you you might not want to be with that person no more. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, yeah, I'm saying uh you that might be a the green light to get up out of that one.
SPEAKER_01And you and too, so like you tell you had an upfront conversation, this is what happened, then it don't it go left, right? So your next person that you meet down the line, you like, well, I probably ain't even gonna say that because of how I went last time, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_09Yeah, and then we'll be in the same situation that we just now talking about. She said, you know, yeah, now my wall is up, and I'm not gonna tell nobody. It it I feel like healing should be almost in the same category as like you got an incurable disease type thing, right? You want to let people know up front that, and I think you should want to let people know up front the healing process as well. Yeah, especially if it's one of them things that, like y'all just said, it's gonna be an ongoing thing. If it's something smooth, like we had a we have a talk, we have a conversation in a lot, and of course I talk about it, and I y'all have seen me smile about it and all of that, but it was one that cut deep though. You know what I'm saying? And I don't think it's I don't think it bleeds out on other people because I don't treat other people based off of the decision that this individual had made. But it it was definitely an eye-opener for me.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_09You know what I'm saying? And I don't, it doesn't, it it was a grow, a growing moment. You know what I'm saying? One of them things that the doctor like to call growing pain. Oh right, yeah, and I was like, at this point, I'm good. I can definitely say I'm here from that situation.
SPEAKER_01I'm here.
SPEAKER_09That's not an ongoing thing, but it's one of those things that if I if I start seeing traces in other people, it might make it easier or quicker for me to walk away from that type of relationship. You know what I'm saying? So so that way it don't bleed out on you.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_09Because I feel like the thing I tell a lot of people is the most important thing that I can give you is my present. So if I remove my presence, that's your law.
SPEAKER_05Right. Right.
SPEAKER_09You know what I'm saying? And I feel like people don't don't value themselves like that enough verbally to not do dumb stuff. You know what I'm saying? I I ain't gonna put my hands on you, I ain't gonna do this, I ain't gotta go to social media. I'm gonna just remove my presence from you. And I think I got that from the father because he said, listen, if you do something that's that's not of my will, I'm taking my hand off of it. Oh you know what I'm saying? And what happened happened. So that's that's yeah, that's heavy work right there. Yeah, that was that's heavy work right there. So do the do the work, guys. Do the work, man. Heal, figure out what healing looks like. Because I I think if they ask themselves them questions, like what does what what does it look like if I'm healed? Yeah, or if I'm healing, like what does that look like? Or every and then honestly, I know KD probably might not agree with it fully, but I don't think that every situation should be that heavy. Like, honestly, like if you and I know people to you, right? And that's the thing. No, I'm saying, like, I know people who who you know they love hard, they love fast, they put their heart on the sleeve, and all of that. I've seen too many people be hurt from a relationship that they was in for two days.
SPEAKER_02I heard, I think. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, you're right, yeah.
SPEAKER_09And then you putting that on the same pedal you putting that on the same pedestal as somebody you've been with for a year, two years, three years, whatever. Yeah, like you don't even know this. What was their last name?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, not for real. What do you know about it? I don't know.
SPEAKER_09All right, you know what I'm saying? So, like, let the time invest itself into it first off, before you start to you know put it on the same pedestal as the real deal stuff.
SPEAKER_02People fall in love too quick, is what that is. We've been together a week. I guess my husband listen, like and to death do his part, baby. Like, hold on, y'all only knew each other for one week.
SPEAKER_09And I almost went, I hate to use the word luck, but like people who say, you know, love at first sight, right?
SPEAKER_01We like that show.
SPEAKER_09We like the show. I don't believe in the phrase.
SPEAKER_02I don't know, it'd be lust.
SPEAKER_09I told you, I'm too shallow for that, and it's lust at first, and I feel like you know, there were some situations where it it worked out long term, right? I don't want to necessarily call it luck, but I don't think there was no kind of formula involved to where you can say I think it don't work out more than it does work out.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, for sure, but you're not gonna hear all of those. But we know some people who met, got married within the first month or two or whatever, and and they currently still together, yeah, and it works now. They might have their issues and all of that, but yeah, they are able to work through it and make it happen.
SPEAKER_02So when you hear that, you say they're just settling at that point, yeah.
SPEAKER_09But no, this is the thing.
SPEAKER_02So well, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_09This is what happens is people can take they can ignore everything else, they can take that story and say, See, I told you it worked.
SPEAKER_06No, for real.
SPEAKER_09You know what I'm saying? See, I told you it worked.
SPEAKER_01So one time, yeah.
SPEAKER_09That's all I need was one one site of an example of yeah, so one good come what one good outcome.
SPEAKER_01That's yeah, work. That's crazy. Like, well, what about the 125 bad outcome? Right, you're not talking about them.
SPEAKER_09Nah, them didn't work because they didn't do what they did, right? They didn't do what they did it, they had the formula exactly. They knew to come on April 18th. Oh my god, you know what I'm saying? At 5 p.m. They knew to get their ticket, they knew that that 10 to get them in. You know what I'm saying? Buffalo Wild Wings, downtown Detroit, April 18th, 5 p.m. 10 to get you in.
SPEAKER_011216 Randall, yeah.
SPEAKER_09What she said, you know what I'm saying? He just keeps saying come downtown, downtown Detroit.
SPEAKER_01It's only one downtown. Talk about it. See what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_09Talk about it.
SPEAKER_02It's only one Buffalo Wild Wings downtown. I'm gonna be on his side. I'm just being it's not right or wrong, it's like not size.
SPEAKER_01It's just I said, Why you don't say the address?
SPEAKER_02He likes because it's only one, it's only one, and it's only one in downtown Detroit, guys.
SPEAKER_09Just come on out to that one, and whatever she's gonna give you the address, whatever GPS you use when you type in Buffalo Wild Wings, downtown Detroit, that comes up automatic right at the end of your creek time 1216 Randolph. One more time, one more time.
SPEAKER_001216 Randolph.
SPEAKER_09What day? What day? What day? What day?
SPEAKER_00April 18th, five o'clock.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, get you in. You feel in the team to get you in. So make sure y'all tune in, man. We here this drops on Wednesday, so you got a couple days. Look, tickets are going fast. I want y'all in the building. I want y'all in the building because this is gonna be a movie, man. We're gonna get it in, we're gonna have fun. We got a like I said, surprise for you. So you gotta be there to see, get, and understand the surprise, man. It's gonna be a lot, a lot, a lot of fun. And if you enjoy wrestling, you can stay for the you know, WrestleMania, and you'll see me in a whole different element. You'll see KD probably working for me and all that good stuff, man. So, you know, work say what not.
SPEAKER_01Oh my goodness. Okay, KD talk to him. Oh, you can follow Kiki at RRP.kiki, you can follow me at your girl.kd. You can follow coach dtm at coach dtm, and you can follow the podcast pages at rrp network.
SPEAKER_09Kiki talk to them.
SPEAKER_02You can find us on our favorite, well, my favorite platform, YouTube. YouTube or iHeartRadio, or wherever you get. I mean, if you listen to the Apple shit, you can find Apple or wherever you get your podcast. Apple shit. Yeah, but everybody don't have Apple, yeah.
SPEAKER_09And then again, I don't know if y'all, I might have forgot to say this earlier, but April 18th. Make sure y'all in the building, you know what I'm saying? Going down, can they get you in, you know, Buffalo Wild Wing 1216 Randolph, downtown Detroit. Let's go. This has been another episode of Relationship Reality Podcast. Kiki.
SPEAKER_02Do you love it? Are you riding? I don't know what the rest of the words, but before we sound off. Uh oh, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_09How was your weekend? A couple seconds.
SPEAKER_02My weekend was um, if I had put it in one word, I would say it was very interesting. Okay, interesting. It was very interesting. I gotta see. Come to the podcast on April 18th. I'll tell you about it. I gotta see that. I'll tell you about it on April 18th. April 18th. Then we get you in downtown Detroit, Buffalo, Wild Wings.
SPEAKER_09Let's go, man. We gotta see.
SPEAKER_02It's your boy Coach DTM, your girl KD, your hostess with the most is key.
SPEAKER_09And this has been Relationship Reality Podcast. We'll see you next week or in a couple days.
SPEAKER_04Goodbye to my friends.